Amanda Seyfried has opened up in the past about auditioning for the role of Glinda in the Wicked movies and now she’s revealing more insight into her audition process.

The 39-year-old actress noted that she no longer has to audition for projects, but this one was different and she was committed to the process.

“I’m in that privileged spot where I just don’t have to [audition],” Amanda said on Backstage’s In the Envelope podcast. “But I like, of course, I talked about this a lot. I auditioned like six times for Wicked.”

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“Because that had to be really just right,” she continued. “I loved it. I was busy. I barely had time to do it, but I made it work. I worked my ass off for years and years and years on that music. I’m competitive… with myself in a really healthy way.”

Obviously, the role went to Ariana Grande. We know of several other actresses who also auditioned for the role.

“There’s something really beautiful about auditioning,” Amanda added. “If you really have the skill, you’re going to show it no matter what. There’s this weird fear when you walk in that you have to make an impression right away, which you do but the only impression that is helpful is to be yourself. The things that people do… the way they behave when they’re nervous can be off-putting. Centering yourself and saying what you feel instead of a bunch of bullshit is helpful.”

Amanda just called out Hollywood for one big problem.